[Ilugc] issues with top and bottom posting

Roshan Mathews rmathews at gmail.com
Wed Jul 4 13:50:50 IST 2012


On Wed, Jul 4, 2012 at 1:02 PM, kenneth gonsalves
<lawgon at thenilgiris.com> wrote:
> On Tue, 2012-07-03 at 21:47 +0530, Shrinivasan T wrote:
>> If a person wishes to answer a question, he chooses the easiest way or
>> his own way to reply.
>> When we ask him to change the way he replies, he gets the same
>> thoughts on mind as
>> "I get little free time, I wish to make it useful for the community.
>> I check email and reply, if I know the answers for any queries.
>> If there are restrictions a.k.a guidelines on how I have to reply to a
>> email,
>> I will skip replying, instead of formatting the email for better
>> readability.
> to be frank, we do not need such people on this list. This attitude is
> typical of the casual, sloppy, unprofessional attitude towards work that
> many people have. If you do something, take pride in doing it to the
> best of your ability in an orderly and correct manner, respecting the
> rules and conventions followed in the field in which you are operating.
> If you cannot, do everyone a favour by going and doing something else.
> Formulating a reply on a mailing list - or contributing code to a
> project, or filing a bug report or anything else worth doing is worth
> doing well. An example:
> one fine day I had the bright idea of contributing a small feature to
> the django project. I studied all the guidelines I could find, looked at
> the code in similar modules, wrote up the patch, tried it out and then
> posted a ticket and sat back waiting for acceptance and praise to flow
> in. Some one accepted the ticket and said 'where are your tests?'. I
> said 'doctests are there'. He said 'we need unit tests'. I went back,
> wrote unit tests, ran them and resubmitted. Then he said - 'tests are
> failing for python 2.5'. Went back, set up a virtualenv, installed 2.5
> and found the problem was upstream. The guy was good enough to check the
> upstream problem, and let me know when it was fixed. Tests passed - I
> resubmitted. Then he asks - 'you have not added docs for the new
> feature'. Went back and added docs. Resubmitted. Then he wants all the
> changes in one patch. Figured out how to do that and finally, after 6
> months, my 10 lines of code was accepted.
> At last inpycon, I was relating my experience to a friend who is a top
> class programmer and an expert in django. He said he had the same
> experience and was like 'who do these guys think they are? They should
> be grateful for any contribution - not nitpick on the formatting'. He
> refuses to contribute. That to me sounds like the attitude of top
> posters in this list.
>> I am not getting this regulations, in office
> office mail is totally different - most offices have the policy of
> compulsory top posting and full quoting of the mail in order to keep
> context.
>>  and in most of the other lists.
> which lists are these?
>> If there are regular inspection on how I am replying, I will be just a
>> reader than contributor"
> so be it - as far as I am concerned the only greater pleasure than
> reading well crafted, precisely formatted replies to queries on mailing
> lists is managing to write such replies.
> --
> regards
> Kenneth Gonsalves
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